Wednesday, September 07, 2005

I've recently started my class "Culture and Armed Conflicts", which is already shaping out to be one hell of an interesting class. The lecture yesterday dealt with the role of women in warfare, specifically female combatants. The main issue was that they destroy the notion that women are instruments of peace while men are instruments of war. The fact that someone actually said that was a refreshing idea and a punch in the face of all feminazis. The examples of female combatants she presented all had personal reasons for fighting, while the men had political reasons. The lecturer alleged, though admitted she did not have any real evidence, that women in war can act on political motivations. Now, I know for a fact that women do have strong political beliefs, so politics doesn't seem like such an unlikely motive to me.
Supposedly, the men fighting alongside the female soldiers, as well as those who fought them, say that they are more cold-blooded and brutal than the male soldiers. The argument there is that they might be acting just as violently the male soldiers but the dichotomy between the idea of a loving nurturing woman and a merciless fighter makes them seem worse than they actually are. So if the idea of women being able to fight and kill as effectively as any man is so shocking, are phrases like "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn" meant in jest?
Towards the end of the lesson, the lecturer mentioned that women were not normally placed on the front lines but relegated to guard duty and other such things. One such example also highlighted the demonstrable cruelty that the female combatants were known for. Many of the women, often between the ages of 16 and 20, were in charge of shooting unarmed prisoners. One of the other teachers then asked rhetorically if killing helpless people is really "macho," suggesting it isn't as shocking for a woman to be an executioner as a front line soldier.
Personally, I don't consider female fighters to be so shocking, especially after witnessing and experiencing the swift ass kicking that women at the dojo can administer. As for cruelty, are people shocked by the people who commit the atrocities or the atrocities themselves? Now I suppose if I saw a soccer mom gunning down a row of people I'd be more shocked than if I saw a burly commando doing it, but that has more to do with social roles than gender. If violence and cruelty committed by females is more disturbing than male violence, then are movies like Kill Bill and Sin City banking on that shock for their success? Or is it the violence itself that is the main attraction, not the gender of the perpetrator?

I asked a Swede today if politics is something that one can discuss at any time with anyone or if there are rules of etiquette associated with the topic. She at first had difficulty explaining the parameters of the etiquette, saying it's not the first thing you would ask someone. I'm guessing it's roughly the same as in the US, which means the people I've been running into lately are just jerks. It's really annoying when you're ordering a pizza and the guy behind the counter asks "American eh? So do you like Bush?" Do I not get the pizza if he doesn't like my answer? I'm willing to have political conversations, just not with complete strangers and not when I'm ordering food. Time to bust out the CCCP shirt.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't think that the existence of Ann Coulter proves that women are inherently crueler than men. Accepting that women are just as human (for better or worse) and have the same range of emotions as men (for better or worse) means just what it seems to mean at face value. If this idea is at all shocking, it's just because we're still suffering from the hangover of the cult of true womanhood.

On the other hand, I personally wouldn't be at all surprised to see a soccer mom mow down a whole kindergarten class with her SUV if she were late picking up little Madysyn from Junior Pilates. Those bitches is TOUGH.

Kevin said...

I had Ann Coulter specifically in mind when I said I knew for a fact that women have strong political beliefs. Thing is, Coulter is all talk next to someone like Black Diamond.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3181529.stm


As for the Bush questions, how ironic in their attempt to learn if I'm an asshole they end up revealing themselves as assholes.

Jinn said...

did any articles or such come with that lecture? one interesting thing about the Israeli army I remember reading was that men would sometimes act dangerously irrationally when female soldiers were wounded or in danger, but I don't recall how they resolved that issue.

Kevin said...

I remember hearing the same thing about the US Army, the men would be overly protective of the female soldiers.
there were packets we had to read, but mostly those were on women adapting to war and not female combatants exclusively. The lecturer did mention that women are not put on the front lines alongside men but the implication with that was that the people who decided on that regarded women (even soldiers) as fragile creatures. They didn't mention that a coed army might have disruptive effects.

Anonymous said...

I would be interested in knowing more about how male soldiers are acting irrationally. Is it really irrational, or is it just war? Male soldiers will often act "irrationally" when it comes to saving other men--do whatever it takes to account for all your men. No man left behind and all. It's considered honorable. So are male soldiers really doing that much more for female soldiers? Or are they doing just what they would for another man, and suffering from a double standard?

Anonymous said...

I would also like to go on record as saying that I think Ann Coulter used to be a man. Seriously.

Kevin said...

It is distinctly possible that they are suffering a double standard whenever they come to the aid of a female soldier as opposed to a male soldier even though they might treat both equally. it would be hard for a general to give an order like "OK men, don't give the female soldiers any more help than you would give another man!" what I'm imagining is happening is that they're protecting the women as they would a civilian on the front lines keeping them out of danger, rather than immediately rushing to their aid once they're already hurt.

Anonymous said...

Bick: For that to be true, it would have to be true that women are indeed more nurturing than men. Personally, I think this is one of those cult of true womanhood stereotypes. You really have an axe to grind, eh? I feel sorry for your girlfriend...